Now how did you first actually meet Fred?
When he came over, when Fred came over, um, to Wright City College, it was the first time that I actually met him. I knew from seeing him on TV that I would meet him, though. I knew, too, that I would have a baby--his baby. He came, Fred Hampton came over to Wright City College to speak, ah, to a group of students. I think it was sponsored by the Afro-American Student Union, or Black Student Union. I forgot what it was called at that time. And, um, they came over, and I tried to get some friends to go and listen to them because I didn't want to go by myself. But, ah, some of them didn't want to go. So I went in and I sat down in the front, and I heard them, I heard Fred speak. Afterwards I introduced myself to him.