For you back then, was integration more important or were these economic things more important?
Well right then, of course, now you know economics was more important to me, 'cause what the heck did I care about going and sitting beside somebody in a restaurant, eating when I couldn't even afford to go in the restaurant. More important to me was my family, was my children getting a good education, for me being able to get the kind of job training I needed to go on a job or for that matter, many of us being able to go into the colleges, like we had to knock open the doors to get in there. We had to fight for we everything we ever got. For the right even to go to college, for the right to be in Volunteers in Service to America. We had to fight for that. We had to fight for a right for our kids to, this, this whole government is nuts. I mean they couldn't even understand prevention. When Dr. Wiley and the legal committee got together to meet with HEW on, ah, early screening and diagnosis, prevention, we had to literally almost fight 'em to make 'em understand we're talking about saving money in this country. I mean isn't it better to correct a illness while a child is young, then to wait 'til that child is 21 and then become permanent disable? Took us two years to make 'em understand that. So everything we did has helped. And that's a movement that I still say lacked the recognition it should have gotten.
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