Were you angry about that?
I was very angry because as I said earlier I was, come from a working family. I, I come from a religious home, I love my brother and sister. I realize I'm their keeper. And I, I felt like why should I be treated this way? I haven't done anything, you know, to cause me to have to be treated this way. Why they look down on us, why do they say all welfare mothers are bad? And I thank God for the movement. Dr. George Wiley who, who helped start this movement. In Philadelphia though it started with some social workers and ministers got together. It was called Crusade for Children under the auspices of Hazel Leslie, my predecessor, she's deceased, she was the first chairman. And then it became Welfare Rights after they met Dr. Wiley.