Interview with Nicholas Katzenbach
QUESTION 14
INTERVIEWER:

OK, LET'S STEP DOWN FOR A MOMENT JOHN. OK, PRESIDENT JOHNSON AND THE CIVIL RIGHTS, WHAT WAS HIS ATTITUDE?

Nicholas Katzenbach:

I think there were two things that President Johnson cared more about than anything else. One was civil rights and equality of race and the other was education. And those were the two things that in my years with him that I felt were the strongest convictions that he had. He uh, he was a man who loved politics and he loved playing at the game of politics and he loved winning things whether they were worth winning or not. But on race and on education, those were things that he carried deep within him and cared a great deal about.