But how did you feel when you noticed the community basically changing with integration, your town?
Well, I felt bad about it, because, ah, I knew what was hap--I knew what was coming up. I knew what was going. I knew that we had something and the youngsters didn't know how to handle it. We had, we had some good advantages there, we could use but we, we didn't use it. We had, they didn't want us to vote. And we got the power. They knew what they want. That's power and we got it and we didn't use it. We're not still are not using it. And they went, they didn't want to integrate the schools. That was another advantage we had. We blew that. We carried knives. We carried guns and you take his lunch money and we go on, I'm a cold brother and you got to do, do what I say. And the people took the children out of the schools. We laugh about how it wind up the school being all Black. They took them out one year by year, year by year. And, and you couldn't blame them in a way because if they'd went there, get what they're supposed to get out of the schools other than trying to guerilla somebody and be mean to their other races, they wouldn't have pulled them so fast. But that was, that was our problem. We didn't use the weapon we had to our advantage.