DO YOU THINK THAT YOUR HUSBAND WAS EVER DISCOURAGED ACTUALLY IN THIS TIME? DO YOU REMEMBER ANY PARTICULAR TIMES WHEN HE SAID, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK, WE CAN'T GO ON?
Well, I don't think he said it that way. There were moments when he was, you know, he was not—he didn't know quite which way to go, and quite what to do next. And you know, there are these moments when you, when you're not sure what is going to happen and what is the best strategy to use. I think there were times in the early struggle. But what they did was to sit down together and they would, they would plan and they would come up with a, a way around the situation. I think that the times when it looked as if they were going to try to enjoin the carpool, through the courts, to stop—to stop them. Or when they were rounding up all of the leadership and arresting them, there's always a concern, if you take all the leaders to jail, who's going to lead? And Martin did not like to go, go to jail first, he would let others go and then when they were doing a campaign that was extended, and then he would go, toward the end. Because he needed to stay there to keep the momentum going and to generate support, you know, around the country. And this was later on.