AND SO THAT EVEN IN THAT FIRST TIME, THERE WAS NO FEELING OF SHAME AT BEING CONVICTED?
Martin had talked about the, the necessity to go to jail for what we believed in, for what they believed in, for the righteous cause, and he kept saying, "Our cause is just, we are, we are moving on the side of God, and God is with us in our struggle and we are right." And I think people felt that there was a rightness and he said, "It means, it means sac—it means suffering and sacrificing, going to jail, and we will go to jail, probably, and we will transform these dungeons of shame into a haven of freedom and justice." I mean, you know, he had a way of turning words and phrases that, you know, would, would inspire people and so that most people went to jail gladly and willingly. They were, you know, going to jail for my freedom is, it's quite different from going to jail because I've committed a crime. Because I think they always knew that it was not a crime. Their only crime was that they wanted freedom, and that was a great way in which to express it, by going to jail as a protest against it. So that you inspire many others and that you do something about changing that system as you continue to fill the jails, 'cause he really encouraged them to fill the jails.