OK, we, we're going to start off with trying to, trying to frame and give some, some context to the period. Ah, I'm interested in, in your view, in 1968, Richard Nixon has, has just been elected. Can you talk a little bit about the polarization that you saw in the country at that time and talk a little bit about the radicalization of youth in that era? Just sort of set us, set us up in that time, what, what you saw happening in the country.
Well, I, I think it's fair to say that in, as, as the Nixon administration came in to office, as we came in to office in 1969, there was certainly was, was, a, a, a strong perception of radicalization**. My own views are that there was far more rhetic- rhetoric about radicalization than there really were radicals. As you review that period of time, no question about the fact that there were some serious riots, but there was never a real threat to the United States because of the radical movement. There were people who were killed, and that was most assuredly unfortunate, there was property that was damaged, but, I think the rhetoric was a lot greater than the, than the fact.