Interview with Jerris Leonard
QUESTION 19
LOUIS MASSIAH:

What about language like disrupt, neutralize, prevent the rise--

JERRIS LEONARD:

Well, that, that's, that's rhetoric. The, the, the use of terms like disruption and, and, ah, challenging of these groups, and, ah, that, that's, by and large, and neutralizing them, I think that was one of the terms that was used, that's a lot of rhetoric, ah, ah, that's coming from people who are, ah, ah, beefing up their turf, they want to keep the pre- there are people, you know, in the city of Washington, who get up every morning and pray that the problem continues, and one of the ways that you do that is to, ah, ah, keep salting, salting it with rhetoric. You keep talking about the problem and building it, and the reason you do that is because you get more people. You go to the Congress and say, "Oh, this is a horrible problem, you better give us a thousand more agents!" And you build, you know, you have f- you have, let's face it, there are empire-builders in Washington, I, I don't think that's any, any news to anybody.

LOUIS MASSIAH:

OK, ah, cut. I'm just going to go back to--

JERRIS LEONARD:

You wanted to get that l--