WAS—THERE WAS AN EARLY PLANNING SESSION WITH, THAT BAYARD RUSTIN AND A. PHILIP RANDOLPH CALLED IN PLANNING THE MARCH ON WASHINGTON OF JUST ACTIVIST GROUPS. COULD YOU TELL ME WHY WAS IT JUST ACTIVIST GROUPS AND, AND JUST TELL ME THAT THE CONFERENCE HAPPENED, AND WHY WAS IT JUST ACTIVIST GROUPS?
Well, Bayard Rustin and A. Randolph called together the leadership, I guess, of the, of the civil rights movement, primarily SNCC, CORE and the representative of SCLC in the early, early days. This was after Birmingham. This was after the mass arrests at jail and the fire hoses and the beating in Birmingham. This was after Medgar Evers has been shot and two young people had enrolled at the University of Alabama. And there was some problem with going to the NAACP or to the Urban League, but—