And you didn't think Malcolm represented that?
We saw Malcolm as being somewhat, ah, ah, paradoxical to our own philosophy, to our own methods of operating, ah, in the South. But we were willing to, to listen to Malcolm, because on one hand, ah, Malcolm, ah, inspired us. Malcolm probably in one way said things in New York, in particular, in Chicago, but around the country, ah, that maybe some people in the South, or in other parts of the country, didn't have the courage to say.
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