In one sentence all I want you to tell me is that the night that Dr. King was shot I talked to President Johnson.

Uhum.

So can you tell me that?

All right. The night Dr. King--

No, let's do a conversation.

All right. OK.

So, ah, what happened that night?

Well I spoke with President Johnson.

Sorry, sorry

That's all right.

Tell me what you, just tell me--

So whenever you're ready.

Ah, the night Dr. King was shot I spoke with President Johnson on the phone. And he, of course, was very distressed, very. I could hear this fear in his voice, you know. He spoke always very quietly, but he was terribly upset, and he just didn't know what to do, he was asking for help. And Ramsey Clark, who was on, who phoned also, and we talked awhile. And my husband got on, and we decided that the best thing was for the President could meet with the remaining leaders, the Black leaders.

OK, we'll cut it after that.

OK.