If you could give me a sense of the Black/White split after Dr. King leaves, you said there was a sense of control while he was still here, but after he left, some of what had always been here begins to come back to the fore, if you could talk about that?
After Dr. King left the, ah, city in August, late August of 1966 and really after, after having failed really, ah, in Chicago, ah, ah, we began to notice, ah, ah, a wider split between the Blacks and the Whites in the Civil Rights Movement. But, ah, as long as Dr. King was here, you know, that was sort of held at bay. But out of respect, really, for Dr. King. But after, after he left, ah, it really began to manifest itself and really to the point where Blacks really literally asked Whites to, ah, ah, leave the movement and to leave meetings, etc., but you see that had really started back around 1964 because of the preachings of, of, of Malcolm X and, ah, ah, a lot of Blacks in the Civil Rights Movement although did not become Muslims but they really believed in Malcolm X and, ah, so because of Malcolm's preaching and inasmuch as, ah, some people already had, you know, those kind of inclinations, it, it, it really, it really manifested itself in, in, in a huge way if you like, ah, in the fall of '66 and '67 and '68 after Dr. King, ah, left the city.