OK, if you can talk about when you found out that Tony had been expelled, and the walk, as you talked to him about that.
Summer of 1967, um, Tony Gittens called me. I was home for a while, I had planned to come back, but he called me and told me that he'd gotten a letter from the school that he was being expelled from the school and he was very upset about it. He said not only him, but there were 18 others. And when I heard I said, "Well, I, I'm coming anyway to work this summer." And I came back to Washington and they said, "We're having a meeting." And went to his house, and it was pretty tense time, because to me, to be expelled from school, if you're a senior, was an ul- the ultimate kind of punishment. And no hearing had been held or anything, and there were 18 of them and I knew, I knew several of them. And after the meeting was over, we talked about lawyers and all that, how to deal with it. And, and he lived near Dupont Circle so we went for a walk, and we were coming down 16th Street, walking around, just talking about, about what this meant, and I felt this, I felt, ah, an anger that I felt Tony was a kind person, very non-violent, he always supported non-violence and peace and harmony, love. And I was more abrasive, and here he was being expelled. I felt that it was as if an innocent person, who I, whom I felt was innocent in motive, and whom I cared about, deeply, was just being drummed out of school. What would happen to him? And I decided, I said, "Well, Tony, we're not going to let that happen." I said, "They," you know, "they can't put all of us out of the school," you know, "the students make the school." And I decided to do something about it.
Thank you. Yes.
Yes, he got it.