Given Howard's Civil Rights history, what was missing in that?
Well, Howard was to me, at least a, a place that--
Well to me Howard was living on, on past reputation, that had really cut off in the 50s they were not addressing current issues, or current problems, it just wasn't there. And in fact the things they had addressed only affected a small minority of Black people, but for concern for the masses it wasn't there. Concern for, for, for real change wasn't there: that they were concerned with getting something for a few Black people, the talented tenth of DuBois, so they could become rich and wealthy and powerful. But they were not concerned with the rest of us.