Well, I, I don't think, and I'm quite sure, he didn't meet with the Freedom Riders, uh, because I don't think he was aware of the Freedom Rides at all until I called him, uh, the day that the bus was burned at Anniston. Uh, now they might, uh, they probably did, send a copy of the press release to the Department of Justice. They might have sent a telegram. Uh, the way that would be handled in the Department of Justice would be in a bureaucratic way, and it would all depend on, on the foresight of some clerk or possibly some young lawyer, but most likely just the clerk, to, to read the uh, press release or the telegram and say: "This is important, somebody should look at it, somebody should see it." And as far as I know, that, that didn't happen, that whatever was sent by uh, the uh, uh, CORE about the freedom rides, was treated routinely, so it didn't come to my attention, it didn't come to the attention of John Doar, my first assistant, and although I can't ever be sure of such things, I'm quite sure it didn't come to the attention of either the Attorney General personally, or anybody in his direct office. It got stuck somewhere in the Civil Rights Division, I'm sure.