How do you respond to accusations that Daley put all of his own people that would be his people in charge of the program?
Well, the program was by and large carried out to some of the ex- existing or mostly through existing institutions, political or non-political. So it was carried out through--I mean, it wasn't a question of putting people in so much as it was who would be used to wage the war against poverty. So it would be the s- s- school system. It would be department of human, ah, services. It would be the police department. Whatever. Or the private agencies, churches, and other social welfare agencies that were involved in the program. Ah, what the, the opposition to this approach wanted was they wanted the money. And the mayor wanted the money and the mayor won.