Once he was elected, not just him as a person, but his administration, the people who worked under him, did you feel that, as a poor person, you had more access to downtown?
Yes. We did have more access. We could go down and his aides, and things, would see us coming and when we got there they would make us welcome to go in and talk to him. But, it's not like that now. And, that's, you know, and that's why we say that we had--when Maynard Jackson was in office, and when his administration was going on--we had access to a lot of things that we don't have access to now.