Just talk to me a little bit. You were, you said about 9, 10 years-old when Arthur was born. Do you remember when he entered your household? You had a fairly large family too.

Ah, was 5 kids and, ah, I don't remember exactly, ah, what year exactly that was but, ah. I'm a little nervous here.

OK, just start over again, just take your time.

OK, ah, what you're asking me what year was he born in?

No, I want to know do you remember specifically since you were 9 or 10 years-old, when he actually entered the household, when he was a baby. Do you remember him when he was a baby?

Yeah, I can pretty much remember him when he was a baby, yes.

Tell me about it.

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