UH, WOULD YOU SAY THAT IT WAS UM, A NORMAL CONVENTION IN THAT REPRESENTATION? I MEAN THAT WAS THE WAY IT HAD ALWAYS BEEN [unintelligible].
Well, yes, as a matter of fact, there had been some progress in some southern states. That's what was different. But in a few hold out states, there had been none—Mississippi was the, the example. But uh, uh, up until oh, the mid or late 50s uh, totally segregated, lily white uh, delegations from the South were more or less accepted and were picked by a, a governor or some uh, leader of the party, and uh, that's the way it was.