So when you went to Africa, where did you go in Africa?
When we went to Africa, we went to Ghana--
Start again, I'm sorry, I jumped on top of you.
Hm?
I jumped on top of you, go ahead.
OK, OK. Well, we went, went to, ah, Ghana and, ah, we went to Nigeria, we went to Egypt. There was the three main countries we went to first. And, ah, by me, had been traveling those some path already in 1959 with my father, that was also the reason my father told Ali I should go with him, 'cause Gamal Abdel Nasser, the, the President of Egypt, ah, when they got there, they, ah, he had an invitation for Rah- for Rahan and Ali to come visit him. And the security, they would not accept me, they say he just, they bring Ali in and his brother. So, but when Ali got there they, Nasser asked him, "Where's Herbert Muhammad?" And he said that he is not here. He said, "Well, you all go back, I won't see you unt- I won't see you until we, you, you bring Herbert back." So the next day they brought me back and that's how, ah, the trip went from then on, Ali saw that the Nation of Islam, through the leadership of my father had, it was respected over there, because his son was respected. So--


