Interview with Herbert Muhammad
QUESTION 13
SAM POLLARD:

OK, Mr. Muhammad, Ali had been told he needed to go before the Illinois State Commission to apologize if he was going to, if they were going to sanction the fight with Ernie Turrell. What did you counsel, what was your counsel to Ali before he went before the Commission?

HERBERT MUHAMMAD:

Ah, my counsel with him before he went, uh--

SAM POLLARD:

You got to include Ali's name.

HERBERT MUHAMMAD:

Yes, ah, is, ah, is Muhammad Ali?

SAM POLLARD:

Yes, you say my co- you know, I counseled Ali before he went before the Commission and--

HERBERT MUHAMMAD:

Yes, yes, yes. Yes, my counsel, ah, my discussion with Muhammad Ali before he went before the, ah, State Commission, was that he was, ah, you know, he must stand up for what he believe in, and that if he, he believe in Islam and he was following my father, then it must be reflected in his decision that he make, he make today. And then, ah, he said he's stand, taking th- the stand that he did, where everybody know, but he had no cause with the Vietcong, he was not going to be a party to anybody killing the innocent womens and childrens and thing- or even being associated, a hospital, nothing like that. So he told them, "Clean out my cell and take my tail to jail before I do something like that."