OK, Mr. Muhammad, tell me the story about when you first met Ali.
Oh yes, well, I first, when I first met Ali, ah, he came by my studio, I had a studio called Star Studio on 79th and, ah, near, near K- near, ah, what's, 79th, ah, take it off again--
OK, tell me about the first time you met Ali.
The first time I met Ali was in 1964, ah, at my studio, I was a, a photographer, and I had a studio. And he came in and he said "I heard that you was the greatest, ah, portrait photographer, so I thought you ought to shoot a portrait of the greatest." Ah, we, I was flattered at that time cause, ah, I, I wa- was the greatest photographer, that was no joke, like he saying he was the greatest, I really felt that I was the greatest portrait to- photographer. So I shot his picture, ah, and it came out very well. Now, if you wanted me to tell the story behind that picture then, OK--