Your family moved from Louisiana to California like many folks, they moved from the South to the Oakland area. What did your family hope when they moved to Oakland? What did they hope for you?
Ah, my family, ah, moved from Louisiana to Oakland, ah, primarily seeking a better life. My father was a farmer in, ah, Louisiana and a preacher. And, ah, my- he moved out, ah, to the Bay Area in order to work in the shipping yards. There was a Naval Supply, it was called at the time. And that was, ah, ah, the reason most Blacks moved out, for work, better work, better pay and a better life hopefully.