What did you think was going to happen? Were you aware that the federal government was on the Panther's tail at that point?

Oh yeah, I was very well aware of that. That was one of, ah, that was one of the reasons that we didn't want the, ah, ah. We were--

I'm sorry. Could you just rephrase that?

All right, all right, all right. Ah, ah, during the period of '68 to '69 the, ah, federal government had declared all out war on the Party. And they were breaking into, ah, headquarters across the, chapters, ah, breaking into chapter headquarters across the country and, ah, filming weapons and saying, "Look they have guns." It was never mentioned that the guns were legal weapons. Ah, they were doing everything to, ah, to, ah, make the community afraid of the Party. And of course you can't organize when people are afraid of you. So we, so I, I, ah, was inclined to try to develop more local politics to run local members for various offices and, ah, develop our Ten Point Program which was housing and food and health program.