Could you talk about the pattern of police brutality in Oakland as you understood at that time and how people articulated it to you?
Well the police were, ah, were Southerners. Ah, as a matter of fact in '60s they were still recruiting from Georgia because, ah, we captured some, ah, post, some fliers. And, ah, they said, that White Southerners knew how to handle these, ah, Negroes. So, ah, the police were, ah, impolite and, ah, ah, they were very fast to kill a Black for minor offenses such as youth, such as Black youth stealing automobiles. They would shoot them in the back and so forth. Ah, I can't recall any particular names but it was widespread dislike for the police because of their inhumane treatment of Blacks.