And you would talk about this not as a race riot but as a ?
I think that's a fairly safe observation to make.
Can you tell me that?
Sure, I can tell you that, because 90% of the efforts that were being made was--
No, I mean, I mean if I say, "Was this a race riot--"
No, it wasn't a race riot as I see it. It was more of a riot designed to gain people's attention as a secondary thing, and, I think, as a first thing, to gain property. We wound up with, with gymnasiums and garages full of stolen property, everything from 16th century broadswords to modern day washing machines. Some of the items that were stolen were, would stagger the imagination. Can you believe a guy stealing a two-story circular steel stairway? They caught a guy dragging that down the street. Or an individual with four or five television sets in the back of his car that he didn't know how got, how they got there. Or an individual with a roll of carpeting that must have weighed two-ton that crushed the roof of his car, didn't know how it got there. Certainly these are not the, the acts of people who are interested in social reform, they're interested in getting something.