OK, as Chief Deputy Attorney General, what did it mean to you that citizens were taking up guns and walking on the streets with them?
Well, as Chief Deputy Attorney General, we had, I had experience in the Department of Justice in the State of California, had had experience in the 1960s, prior to this time, with a variety of nut groups, both extreme left and extreme right who were running around with guns thinking that they could solve the problems of California and the world through direct militant action. And we were and had been well informed and in some cases had surveillance upon, ah, extreme groups that carried weapons. When these characters came along we thought they were another irritating part of the bouillabaisse that was starting to bubble all over California. We needed them like a, a severe case of a bad disease**.
OK, um, what was--