What did you hear that they were doing?
Having strong and aggressive dialogues with the police. That they, on the occasion of arrests, that--
And if you could rephrase. What did you hear that the Black Panthers were doing?
We heard that the Black Panthers were having strong confrontations with the police departments, were interfering in arrests, were interposing themselves as a militant group, ah, in the process of, ah, police operations in East Oakland. And it looked to us like a very bad and very close up situation.