Now what did Mitchell ask you to do?
Well, he didn't give me any specific instructions at that point. He just said-
Can you say "Roy" instead of "he"?
Roy said basically, "Just go and see if you can join the Black Panther Party. I understand they, they are recruiting Panther members. So why don't you see if you can go down to the office and join. If you get in, give me a call back." So, the next day, I got on the bus and went down to the office of the Black Panther Party. It was located on Western and Madison, and walked in the office, about three or four Panthers in the office, and I think I was about the fifth member in the Chicago Party to join. They had this big office building on the, and up on the second floor they had about five or six offices and very little personnel to run things. So positions, it was easy to get a position. So they appointed me as, as the Security Captain. That was the first time I met Fred Hampton, and he was the Chairman, the spokesman for the Party and Bobby Rush was the Minister of Defense. He was Huey P. Newton's Deputy, which was the top man in the, in the state of Illinois at that time.