How would you characterize the rebel leadership? Were these people interested in prison reform? Was this Black power? What were the leaders like? People like Richard Clark and Herb Blyden, did they represent the prisoners?
Well I think that they represented ah, ah--
If you could just tell me you're talking about.
Ah you asked me about, no, I'm ah, I noticed that ah...ah Clark and Blyden seemed to be leaders among their group. There were others, however, Sam Melville was there, Jerry Rosenberg was there, ah Butler was there. Ah a number of them. However, Clark and Blyden seemed to be the leaders. They...they sounded like they were fairly intelligent people and one wondered how they could think that they could control the whole state government and...and change everything through violence. However they...they undoubtedly felt that they could do it that way.
Ok, Cut please. I may be asking you the wrong--