Can you recall much about your conversation with William Kuntsler about letting Bobby Seale come? What was your sense of whether it would be a good idea to bring him or not?
Well, I think, ah, Mr. Kuntsler suggested that, ah, ah, that he, that Bobby Seale should be brought there, brought to the institution. And I think Arthur E.. Eve did too. And after thinking about it a very short time I felt that it was worthwhile. That, ah, he was important, from the West Coast, in this movement and that if he came and saw what the situation was and what we were willing to do that if he agreed with us, he might be persuasive in helping us get this thing settled.