OK. Mr. Patterson, as a champion you were always considered a person who, outside the ring, led a quiet, reflective kind of life. When Cassius Clay first came on the fight scene what did you think of him?

Well it was something different. In fact, ah--

Can we stop. When you start--

Oh, yes, you're right. You're right. When Clay came on the scene, ah, he was Clay then, when Cassius Clay came on the scene, he was something different. I had never seen anything like that before. I thought it was rather comical. In fact, ah, I had a lot of laughter out of it. He would predict, but after a while, many of his predictions came true.