How did you reconcile your newfound, if you will, growing affection for Ali, when he refused induction into the service? How did you feel about that?
I was very upset about it, personally and editorially. I didn't think it was right for Ali to refuse induction when other people were over there fighting and, and dying in Vietnam. Remember now that this was before we all knew what a tragic, just, ah, transcendentally horrible mistake Vietnam was. At that time it was of, almost as much of a situation of patriotism, much like World War II. Only in retrospect did we see what a terrible thing it was. This was before we saw that. So, I was very resentful of it and so were quite a few other people.
All right, let's stop down.