What role do you think race had to play in his treatment?
So far as I have always thought, as far as this entire experiment, I believe that race was the bottom line, unfortunately. I think that everybody had the idea that somebody was going to be selected who was gonna be part, you've got to remember, at that time, there was no superintendent in the school system that was Black. There was maybe one or two Black principals. There were no Black assistant principals. Maybe a few here and there, but, all of a sudden, to have a superintendent who was Black, uh, New York wasn't ready for that.