TELL ME ABOUT THE FIRST TIME YOU MET HIM.
The first time I met him, I was ushered into his office, he was on the telephone, had his back to me. And uh I, it was a great big chair. And I was expecting a great big man. When he turned around, there was a small man with a deep voice. Uh, he told me that he was talking to the Recreation Department, that the blacks wanted to play golf on the municipal golf courses - he was going to let them, but he was going to put concrete in all the holes, they would never get a golf ball in any of the holes. And my opinion of him at that time was, you know, I, I seen then that his philosophy and my philosophy - we were too different, and we never did agree on anything.
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