Interview with Albert Raby

And, as someone from Chicago, who'd been working with, actually against him, several years, did you think that would happen?


I, it was, it was an argument that seemed reasonable. Ah, it wasn't clear to me, again, I, I want to underline the, the relative lack of sophistication of myself in particular and maybe the movement in general in understanding the political dynamics that were going on and where the leverages were and on down the line. So that I think that we may very well have, have bought it, retrospectively, it was clear that it was much more complicated than the formulas that we had laid out.