Can you tell me about that night, what it was like?
When the riots broke out in, on the west side of the city, and Dr. King and I and Andy drove around trying to persuade particularly young Black people who were the, the, those who were most involved in the action on the streets, if you will. We tried to encourage them to, to go into places where we could talk to them collectively. Where that wasn't possible, we tried to talk to them individually and encourage them to get off the streets. Ah, that they were, one, not helping the problem. We understood their frustration, we were trying to address it and find avenues for that energy and frustration and anger to be challenged in a constructive way. And that, that the most dangerous situation was that the police would overreact and they would in fact be physically hurt, or damaged, or end up in jail**.