So at the time, at the time the agreement was signed, what was your stand toward it and what had been won and what had been given up?
Well, I was very skeptical after we had signed the agreement whether the city would in fact follow through with its responsibilities. The, what movements have is the capacity to bring issues to the table. They don't always have the institutional capacity to follow, to force a responsible follow-through on them. And in fact, had not the Leadership Council on Metropolitan Open Communities been established as an, with an institutional capacity to carry on the implementation of that summit agreement, it would have, in fact, been meaningless.