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Well two things contributed greatly to the De--Detroit riot. One was, uh, urban renewal and the other was the freeway program, because those two programs bulldozed many poor people out of their homes an--and with the suburban wall that was built around most of our central cities by the suburbs to keep poor and minority citizens out of the suburbs, uh, the, the people had to con--congregate in an area along 12th Street, and that became over-congested, it was too heavily populated. And consequently when the incident occurred, there was just an explosion. It was hot, it was in the summertime, and, uh, I'm of the opinion at least that that over-concentration of people as a result of those two federal programs played a big part in the intensity of the riot.