What were you fighting against in terms of the attitude of, of Black men at that point who were in the struggle? I mean, they were Nationalists, they were militants? What else are they?
What we recognized finally as women in the movement, ah, in spi--in spite of what organization we were in, that African-American men had been socialized by America and they were socialized to be patriarchs and they were socialized to be people who control things. Also, we, don't forget we had come out of the pa--the time of Moynihan. Moynihan when he came out with his report that said, "The problem for America is Black women." You know what I'm, what I'm saying? "They have the power," which was sheer nonsense, ah, so, we also were coming out of the, some of the literature, that damned Black women. We came out of the literature that said the reasons why Black man couldn't advance is that Black women were holding them back. So, we came, we were coming out of a lot of madness, you see. At the same time we were trying to refocus some of that and say simply that Black women were not responsible for this oppression, that we were involved in and with, um, and that was very difficult, ah, so we see, ah, I lost my thought, uh--