...she was Christian, but she still raised you to fight back? Can you talk--
Oh yeah, yeah my mother was a, was a tough Christian. She, um, she taught me to do what was necessary to survive in the city. In, on several occasions I had fights and she told me two things that I remember. She said, "If you go out and you lose the fight, then you're going to have to fight me when you come back." So I didn't want to fight my mother I mean I knew I'd lose it. The second thing was she said, "If somebody bothers you, you fight as hard, pick up anything, do whatever's necessary to win." And that was because the way that kids would fight in a, in a urban situation I mean it, it could lead to anything. I mean we used to throw bricks at one another, we used to fight with fists, or whatever the case may be. So, um, in relationship to the non-violence of the Civil Rights Movement in the south we just didn't see that if somebody comes up and knocks you up side the head that you shouldn't knock two or three people up side the head to make sure that never happened again, because it just didn't relate to what we were feeling inside. Though we respected Dr. King and we respected the movement, uh, our feelings I think were quite more consistent and congruent with, uh, what some of the main spokespersons for SNCC, uh, had to say. Stokely Carmichael and particularly Rap Brown, 'cause when Rap came up with this little statement, "If American don't come around, then burn America down," I mean everybody could relate to that. We could relate to that primarily because, not necessarily that everybody wanted to go out and throw a firebomb, but the fact of the matter is is that we had always been put in the situation, we meaning those of us who were feeling consciousness as Black people at that time, had been put in a situation where we always had to react as opposed to be proactive in a situation. And when we got the chance to act and to deal with all the frustration we even saw and felt about why those people, about the situation the people getting uh, beaten and so forth in the south, uh, we re--we, we dealt with those and we responded to it. And the thing of it is is that we were asking ourselves, "If those dudes are hitting all of those people, they got thousands of people down there, I mean why don't they just fight back?" And that was what we found, uh, to be quite strange and, and, and my training was is that you do what's necessary.
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