Okay, a major theme of Gary was unity without uniformity. Do you recall a sense of unity or was the convention marked by rifts and differences in opinions?
I don't even know nothing about the convention. I flew in one afternoon. I got in there at si--uh, four, five o'clock. I spoke that night, later went to a hotel and caught a plane the next day. See, I don't even know what those guys were pulling. You know, they didn't want--they didn't us in it, that's what it was, for whatever silly re--
Largely the Central Committee evolved to a point that we had maybe had ten or twelve different members. They were mostly initially composed of people who ran chapters in other states. Ah, many times like we may not get to Fred Hampton or Bobby Rush in Chicago but if the Central Committee, if we had a quorum for it, if we had a majority or three quarter votes for a particular policy, now this is all right. We're going to have to create Breakfast for Children Program--the Central Committee agreed--called democratic centralism majority vote. Then we give directives to chapters and branches that they had to set up a free breakfast program or set up a pr-- preventative medical health care clinic, uh, beginning with maybe with sickle cell anemia testing in a local church that may allow the use of that church. So it was a lot of directives given. Ah, we may have, we had Minister of Defense, Chairman, Minister of Education, Minister of Information and so on. Well, in each chapter, we had Deputy Chairman, Deputy Minister of Defense, you know, Deputy Minister of Education and so on. Each branch, you know what I mean, it was like, uh, Director of Minister of Education and so on with each chapter and branch so that they could carry out their basic functions based on the directives they got from the Central Committee of the Black Panther Party.
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