1963 after the March on Washington you met with Malcolm in a coffee shop a group of NAG members. Can you describe what went on in that meeting?
During a, a, a down period during the process of the March on Washington, many of us who were, ah, members of the NAG group in Washington, D.C., which was a friends group for the Student Non-violent Coordinating Committee, went to a coffee shop at which we ran into Malcolm X who was at the, in Washington to, to observe the March on Washington. Ah, Malcolm talked to us about the contradictions of the march. Malcolm was very friendly to us because he knew that we were the same group of people who had, ah, encouraged the, the university to invite him for the Lyceum Program. Malcolm talked about the changes in the march. At first he said that it was supposed to be a civil disobedience and now it was not. Malcolm talked about the, at first it was supposed to be primarily a Black thrust march and now it was integrated. Malcolm raised a lot of questions about the internal organizations the compromises that were being made. And he was raising that in the context of, of raising questions in our own minds so we could begin to observe and analyze the march from that particular perspective.