TELL ME ABOUT FRED SHUTTLESWORTH. WAS HE AN IMPORTANT INGREDIENT AT THIS POINT?
Quite, quite an important ingredient. Uh, as a result of his activities, he was arrested, and uh, placed in jail, and they wouldn't even permit him to have bonds or we uh, filed action in state court, we had to appeal it to the Court of Appeals, then to the State Supreme Court, which denied it, and we uh, appealed it to the United States Supreme Court immediately, and the justice — one of the justices of the Supreme Court directed us to again uh, see if they would release him. If not, then uh he would have a local federal judge to direct that he be released. Well, the thing about it, uh, we were down at the Supreme Court, and when they indicated that uh, — they knew what would happen, but I would have to get back to Birmingham, and contact the federal district judge. So they uh, indicated that they were just going to delay, until the federal judge had left his office. So I went in the clerk's office and called a friend of mine, Fred Gray, and told him that um, we would have to probably remain overnight, until the court made its decision where we could uh see a federal judge. And I also called Judge Grooms and told him to wait for me. And, evidently the clerk made that known to the uh, chief justice, and very shortly afterwards, he uh told us that oh, well, he made his decision. And of course, I immediately — immediately got in the car and came back to Birmingham. The federal judge made his order, and uh, Shuttlesworth was released.