Interview with Frank Smith (Big Black)
QUESTION 24
SAM POLLARD:

Talk about the refugee doctors, as you call them, how they treated the inmates, how they treated you.

FRANK "BIG BLACK" SMITH:

We say refugee doctors, you know, really, you know, and the reason we say refugee doctors, you know, it's, it's, it's the mannerism, mainly it wasn't even a doctor, really, Steinberg and Williams, from the way they treat you, you know. There would be on one side of the window, you know, and you would be on the other side of the window. It's worse than going in a bank. You know, with no hand touching, no feel, you know, if you say you got a knot in your stomach, they'd say, "Here's an aspirin, maybe it will go down, go back to your cell." If you say you got a gum ball in your mouth, "Here's an aspirin." You know, you might have to open our mouth up or pull your shirt up, they on one side and you on the other. There's no physical touch, no examination, none whatsoever. And I'm serious about this. If you get serious enough. If they think and you complain enough to the right police or the right, you know, a, a, PK principal people, that's the assistant warden, maybe they might send you to an outside hospital. But there wasn't no examination from them doctors in Attica State Prison. You know, none whatsoever.