Interview with Frank Smith (Big Black)
QUESTION 6
SAM POLLARD:

Ready. A few days latter had a tape recorded message for the inmates. What was your reactions to his statements --

FRANK "BIG BLACK" SMITH:

Well, after Oswald left the message, you know the tape message, you know, to the brothers in Attica, you know, Oh, he ain't high-jiving, you know, he thinks somebody's head is screwed on. He had to go that same rhetoric, you know. This ex-commissioner of parole, you know, he's shooting us a lot of, you know, White-wash again, you know, he's not going to do anything and, and he's overly reacting, you know, the situation that we're talking about or any manifesto that was given to him, you know, he's not going to adhere to it. You know he's not going to go with any of the demands or the suggestions, you know, that he call it, you know, he's not going to go with any of it. I thought he was going to take it as a laughing matter. You know the conditions in Attica, you know, he knew, you know, it wasn't the first time, you know, that it was thrown out there. You know, long before 1971. You know, there's been a lot of letters, you know. Even from our families, talking about the conditions in Attica, you know, and they'd had the change, the over crowdedness, you know, and, and, the slave wages and not being able to get any kind of productive, you know. programs in Attica, you know. The system knew, you know, we been talking about it. We'd talk about it. He'd talk about it. But you know a lot of leverage, you know, that's why I see that rebelling and conditions can bring it on a lot of different levels, you know, and I see it and I feel it, you know, that a lot of different things can happen, you know, behind the human conditions.

SAM POLLARD:

All right, lets cut




SAM POLLARD:

Describe again what the reaction of the brothers to Oswald's tape recorded message--

FRANK "BIG BLACK" SMITH:

The Oswald tape recorded, ah, message was a bunch of hogwash. We never took it serious because we knew he didn't take it serious. It was another dupe situation. Period.

SAM POLLARD:

OK.