Interview with Kathy Stapleton
QUESTION 7
PAUL STECKLER:

So, how would a typical fight start?

KATHY STAPLETON:

Well, a typical fight could start any way. It just um, it could be a push, or a shove, um, in small group of people, which would turn into, ah, everybody was very defensive about everything. You know, everybody took it offense at the slightest thing. Um, it could be a comment, you know, a little comment, then it would go back and forth. You know, two people arguing would turn into four or six, and then it would be groups of people, and it would turn into a, everybody seemed to get involved, uh, teachers would come running, police would come running, and before you knew it, it was out of control. And, most people involved in an altercation had no idea what started it; it just came out of nowhere. It was just explosive, all the time. You know, uh, most people did not know what the pushing and shoving was about, or why, or who started it, or it was just, um, it was almost as if it was expected. The kids in this school--both Black and White--felt that they were there to be defensive and that they were, the white kids felt intimidated that they had Black kids in the school. The Black kids are intimidated because they were in this White school and they did not want to be pushed around**. Just the slightest thing would set it off.** And, I don't think either side knew what was going on. And, I think a lot of the pressure on both sides probably came from outside the school. And these kids went to school with idea that this is the way it was.

PAUL STECKLER:

Okay, cut.