I want you to tell me now, in the wake of the events that morning of December 4th, what happened to the survivors and how, how did you begin to see them drawn into the legal process. What was their struggle, what was...?
Well, the survivors were taken right off to jail if they weren't taken to hospital, the hospital and--
Okay, well right after the raid the, the survivors were either taken to the hospital or to jail. Deborah was taken to jail because she wasn't seriously hurt, although she was almost to term with little Fred at that point. Uhm, and uh, Doc Satchel was taken to Cook County Hospital because he had five bullets in his stomach. And, uh, from that point forward they were under siege, they were rather than the victims, they were the people, they were the offenders. They were the ones who, uh, were responsible for all of this. They were the ones who were going to be tried, uh, for attempted murder on these heroic police officers. So that's what they were facing, and they were facing an incredible amount of pressure from the legal system and also, uh, an incredible feeling that they wanted to get the real truth out. But they were under certain constrictions because of the legal case that was hanging over their head, and how they were going to have to deal with, uh, getting the truth out, and dealing with the enormity of the crime. And, and also they lost their leader, and their friend, and their associate, two of them really. But Fred Hampton, of course, was from Chicago, and was the leader here in Chicago. Mark Clark who was also murdered in, in the apartment was from Peoria. Ah, he was a leader in Peoria. There were leaders from around the state in the apartment that evening. Ah, but uh, so they, they, I mean they were 17, 18 years old. Ah, young, young people, people that were all of the sudden confronted with serious physical injuries, with, uh, threat of long terms in prison. And, uh, you know, having been, uh, witness to, an, an, uh, uh, assassination.