Did he think he could win?
I think maybe for, for a while, maybe he thought he had a chance. I think he, he thought he had a chance to win. Ah, you know, particularly in '72, when I, I was working for him in a couple of states, North Carolina and South Carolina, he got very, very strong, and, I think that at time he felt like he could win. In '68, I think up until the middle of the campaign he thought he had a chance to win.